Always enjoy the guys giving hand signals, as if the urgency of their gestures would help accomplish something.Thats why we kept an old TD-24 dozer around it had a 50,000 lb winch on the back with 100 feet of 1 inch cable, no drama .Incredible footage of tractors battling mud! It's amazing how they try to power through and the various strategies they use.When your rim is spinning inside your track, that can't be good.